Thursday, July 25, 2013

Sarah AB’s Complaint


Her Fragrance has another dig at the Guardian, in a piece titled “Giraldi on Veterans Today – and Richard Falk on Truth Jihad”, merits of which I won’t even dispute: Veterans Today is clearly a dubious outfit. But Mizz AB’s guilt by association is rather pot and kettle, if you just consider what company she keeps on Harry’s Gutterthreads.

Here’s a quick exchange in the comment section:

Adrian Morgan:

But look at some of the crap that gets posted in the comments here whenever Islam is mentioned!

 

Marinara Dong (in reply to that comment):

Islam is a steaming pile of bullshit. An intolerant, totalitarian, unchanging, intransigent, international cult of authoritarianism, misogyny, repression and bloodlust.

 

Unscramble my name to find out who I'm quoting :>)

 

Unscramble ‘Marinara Dong’ and you get Adrian Morgan, who then retorts:

Adrian Morgan:

Nothing wrong with criticising an ideology. But that isn't what happens for many in the comments, is it? Recently, comments along the lines of "they have it coming to 'em" are not criticisms of an ideology, but essentialising of all Muslims, you sneering prat (who probably thinks we should all have voted for Ken Livingstone).

 

Adrian: “Islam is a steaming pile of bullshit. An intolerant, totalitarian, unchanging, intransigent, international cult of authoritarianism, misogyny, repression and bloodlust”, is NOT essentialising of all Muslims? It’s, erm, reasoned critique of an ‘ideology’?

 

Sarah, as long as you allow mental spastics and racists like Adrian to comment freely (and w/o opposition from you), why should anyone take your jibes at the Guardian seriously? You see, anyone would think that the Guardian needs constant castigating for its anti-Zionist stance but that crapolas genre Adrian (and the hordes like him) have to be tolerated at the Brown Sauce because no matter how putrid their views are, at least they’re 100 % pro-Zionist!

 

Sunday, July 21, 2013

Sarah AB: ‘Many Palestinians have been affected by Israel’

Another Sarah AB post over at the Brown Sauce, this one about another mosque targeted in the West Midlands, brought out the very worst of HP habitué Islamophobes (but don’t use that term or you’ll basically be considered a Cultural Marxist). Mention Islam or Muslims or Mosque and out they come in full force. Here’s a particularly cauliflowered brain:


Dick Turnip: If Muslims stopped attacking people and cutting off heads then maybe they wouldn't be attacked. However, I really doubt it's going to happen as it's their religion to attack all non-Muslims.



Sarah AB (in response to another racist defending this comment): I'm astonished you can be so blase about that comment, which implied, if it did not state, that the attack was so expected/natural as to be justifiable. You could use similar logic to justify, or brush aside, Palestinian suicide bombers - and I expect many Palestinians have been affected far more pressingly by Israel than most of us have by Muslims/Islam (though I guess if you spend your whole time reading Jihad Watch you are going to forget that.) Obviously there are problems with extremists of both the violent and non violent kinds, but, particularly with incidents such as the murder of Rigby, almost every Muslim will condemn that (other important issues will elicit more mixed or uncertain responses - eg wrt apostasy). In France there is also a problem with Islamophobia - something which I was personally aware of when I was there for a conference recently - really different from UK. Banning of face veils has the support of some Muslims, but there have also been attacks on halal slaughter ('and do you eat foie gras?' shut up someone who chose to moan to me about that issue) and a woman, as I reported here, was not allowed to go on a school trip with her son's school because she was wearing a hijab. In Switzerland there are restrictions on minarets. I get the sense that claims that the curriculum is being censored by Muslims is much exaggerated, though if it is it is the kind of thing which should be a concern, yes, although often such moves derive from liberal non-Muslims in fact.


I expect many Palestinians have been affected far more pressingly by Israel than most of us have by Muslims/Islam […]”… wow Sarah, by HP’s standards that’s quite an admission of… should I say ‘Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians’ (I really don’t want to put words into your mouth, dearest!)

She follows up:


I'll just add, in case it was ambiguous, that I think the suicide attacks in Israel were completely horrifying and indefensible, and also more unambiguously planned to kill and also more unambiguously planned to kill and maim given that there is some suggestion that the placement of the West Midland bombs hasn't been designed to hit the target as clearly as one might expect - although that could relate to access, or a wish for the device to remain concealed, rather than a wish to avoid harm.


So with the inevitable disclaimer paragraph she swiftly restores the Karma balance: mirror, mirror on the wall: Palestinians terrorists remain the most wicked of them all! So there!