Wednesday, December 08, 2010

Racist Rabbis…

I’ve always been convinced that ethnocentricity of the kind we increasingly and with inevitable logic see appear in the ‘Jewish State’ can only lead to racism: putting ‘Self’ firmly above ‘Other’, as decreed by G-d in an extreme interpretation of ‘Ye Olde Scrolls’. Here’s that principle in action:

Fifty Israeli rabbis have signed an open letter warning Jews not to rent or sell property to non-Jews, saying those who do should be "ostracised," a copy of the letter showed on Tuesday.

The advice was condemned by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu, who said "this kind of speech should be banned in a Jewish and democratic state."

The letter instructs that "it is forbidden in the Torah
to sell a house or a field in the land of Israel to a foreigner," referring to the Pentateuch -- the first five books of the Bible.

Signed mostly by state-employed rabbis, the document warns that "he who sells or rents them a flat in an area where Jews live causes great harm to his neighbours."


"After someone sells or rents just one flat,
the value of all the neighbouring flats drops... He who sells or rents (to
non-Jews) causes his neighbours a big loss and his sin is great," the letter said, in what was largely understood to refer to Israel's Arab minority.

"Anyone who sells (property to a non-Jew) must be cut off!!"

According to the Israeli news website Ynet, the letter is to be published in religious newspapers and distributed in synagogues across the country later this week.


Source: Yahoo! News

Imagine something like this happening in any other ‘democracy’… There would be hell to pay and rightly so...

14 Comments:

At 10:23 PM, Blogger Emmanuel said...

I'm still hoping there will be hell to pay and they'll be fired, at the very least, if not prosecuted for incitement. My hopes aren't very high, though.

 
At 2:17 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Your hopes aren't high? Explain...

 
At 8:03 AM, Blogger Emmanuel said...

I may have been wrong not to believe there's much of a chance of something being done against these rabbis. The Attorney General has ordered the police to investigate the rabbis. Some of them have already rescinded their signatures from the letter, though mostly because of a rebuke by an important ultra-Orthodox rabbi and not because of the investigation.

 
At 6:40 PM, Blogger Baconeater said...

They are no better than the Arabs who threatened to kill anyone who sold land to Jews in the 1940's.
Actually, they are worse, because Jews are held to much higher standards by Paliphiles and the Far Left.

 
At 9:55 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Anybody who uses terms like ‘Paliphiles’ or believes the critics of Israeli FP are ‘Far Left’ isn’t worth a measured response. But then chronic reductionism was always your main MO…

 
At 2:55 PM, Blogger Gert said...

You forgot my other rule: don't annoy/bore me.

 
At 3:45 PM, Blogger Baconeater said...

Gert, you know exactly what I mean by Paliphiles (anyone who supports the Palestinians blindly or close to blindly, in my opinion, which is a very good one), and the Far Left, who generally blames the ones with the most for anything that happens to the "underdog", or rather the underdog is always the people or person who has the worse lot in life.
Yes, I consider you to be a Paliphile, and it doesn't surprise me that you don't want to comment on the fact that Arabs did issue death threats, and also carried a few out, back in the 1940's if one of their brethren sold land to Jews.
In a related topic, what do you think the poll results would be if Jews were asked about saving Palestinians from the forest fire?

 
At 6:32 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Blimey, you still here? I’ll give you half a point for tenacity…

Your problem is that really you’re a blatant racist who considers ‘Self’ much better than ‘Other’ and thus believes that those who oppose Israel’s foreign policy must do this out of ‘love’ for Palestinians and ergo out of hate for Zionists. We do support the Palestinian cause because we believe, along with fast increasing numbers of Jews and non-Jews alike, that a large injustice is being committed against them. And unlike people like you who consider themselves ‘liberal’ because they don’t hate gays and because they’re atheists (your particular brand of atheism stinks, by the way) we don’t distinguish between those who oppress and those who are oppressed on the basis of their religion or ethnicity.

Your point about the poll is more of the same: ‘we good, they bad’.

I was actually going to mention Elder of Ziyon because any talk of ‘Paliphiles’, ‘Palarabs’, ‘Fakestinians’, ‘Paleostinians’ is greeted there with childish little cries of excitement and delight. And still these people believe they have the right to complain about anti-Semitism…

Peejays, you’ll always be a little peddler of factoids, theorettes, a bit of soft racism here and some general boredom there, like only conservative North Americans seem to be able to generate en masse…

Now kindly piss off.

CM is now on. Any reasonable comment will be reviewed, the reast goes in the circular filing system.

 
At 11:19 PM, Blogger Baconeater said...

I'm hardly a racist. And what is my brand of atheism?
I also realize that the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations brought on most of the injustice they are living with today.
Israel isn't perfect, but how can you be perfect when you are living next to people who wish you didn't exist and do everything they can to try to make you not exist.
Also, and I don't expect you to print this, but I saw you were complaining about being banned at a popular website yet you are threatening a ban here. I find that very hypocritical.

 
At 5:21 PM, Blogger Gert said...

BEAJ:

You were temporarily banned from here on the basis of blatant racism vis-à-vis Muslims and Arabs. I explained that at great length in an email to you. I’m not coming back on this or explaining it again. I didn’t go over one night of ice.

Your repeated recommendation of Elder of Ziyon (one of the most racist Zionist blogs that I know of) speaks further volumes.

Your form of atheism is seriously borderline anti-religious. It’s also positivist atheism which is nonsense. It also singles out Islam for special treatment. And endorses ‘atheists’ that by their own admission worship at the Church of Knownothingism, like that imbecile Pat Condell (he managed even to get involved in the New York Islamic Center ‘controversy’. A cunt that might want to consider taking up residence in the USA… we have no need for him here).

Your characterisation of the relationship between Israel and the Arab world is characteristically jingoistic of your ‘style’ of ‘reasoning’. In reality some of Israel’s greatest allies are Arab countries, most other Arab countries are resigned to Israel’s existence and/or have been bribed by the US into acquiescence.

Re. banning: you banned Ricky, does that also make you a hypocrite? The truth is that most blogs exercise the right to not publish. As the ‘editor’ of the ‘Dodge City Gazette’ I feel no compunction to publish anybody’s drivel.

I hope this clarifies things. You remain to me a crashing bore whose opinions I’ve no interest in neither reading nor propagating.

 
At 5:39 PM, Blogger Baconeater said...

You were temporarily banned from here on the basis of blatant racism vis-à-vis Muslims and Arabs. I explained that at great length in an email to you. I’m not coming back on this or explaining it again. I didn’t go over one night of ice.
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Not racism. Just stating facts. Do I find Islam a threat to humanity. Yes. Doesn't make me racist just a realist.

Your repeated recommendation of Elder of Ziyon (one of the most racist Zionist blogs that I know of) speaks further volumes.
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That blog is hardly racist. Cite even an article there that is racist. Mad Zionist, yes, he is a racist blogger.

Your form of atheism is seriously borderline anti-religious. It’s also positivist atheism which is nonsense.
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I continually state that there is no reason to believe in God and there is no evidence for God. That is not positive atheism. Again, it is a fact that there is as much evidence for God as there is for Leprechauns.

It also singles out Islam for special treatment.
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Islam deserves it. Or haven't you noticed that many Islamic states practice Apartheid, violate equal human right status, and are involved in most of the world's conflicts. That Islam is attempted to be spread violently at times, where that is no longer the case with other religions.

And endorses ‘atheists’ that by their own admission worship at the Church of Knownothingism, like that imbecile Pat Condell (he managed even to get involved in the New York Islamic Center ‘controversy’. A cunt that might want to consider taking up residence in the USA… we have no need for him here).
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Condell makes many valid points. I like him.

Your characterisation of the relationship between Israel and the Arab world is characteristically jingoistic of your ‘style’ of ‘reasoning’. In reality some of Israel’s greatest allies are Arab countries, most other Arab countries are resigned to Israel’s existence and/or have been bribed by the US into acquiescence.
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I agree with you regarding what is today, but that is not what it was always like. Bribed? LOL.



Re. banning: you banned Ricky, does that also make you a hypocrite? The truth is that most blogs exercise the right to not publish. As the ‘editor’ of the ‘Dodge City Gazette’ I feel no compunction to publish anybody’s drivel.
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I was not the one who complained that someone else got banned. I agree, this is your blog, and you should be able to ban anyone you like. If you only allow those who share your viewpoint though, it will hurt how many readers you have. But those who are trollish, should definitely be banned. I ban creationists from my Youtube channel after I find they are just turning the page and repeating nonsense after nonsense with no desire to learn.

I hope this clarifies things. You remain to me a crashing bore whose opinions I’ve no interest in neither reading nor propagating.
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Your opinion of me doesn't matter. In fact, if felt differently, I might have to book an appointment with a psychiatrist.

 
At 8:52 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Bacon:

And Crimbo was starting off so well here, apart from the atrocious weather! Then you come along, intent on wasting my time, bweurk…

Your latest comment is also effectively your last comment on this thread: anything else will now be deleted without even being opened, capisce?

“Islam [is] a threat to humanity”, “Islam deserves it” and the immortal ‘Muslims needed to be bitch slapped’ (you, on your blog, on account of the Iraq war) are as conclusive proof of your racism as can reasonably be obtained. If you believe that then there really is no point talking about ‘Elder of Ziyon’ either.

Mad Zionist? Birds of a feather on this issue… He claimed that ‘Islam is a terrorist organisation’, you claim ‘it’s a threat to humanity’, those are a distinction without much of a difference.

Islam, like any other social, cultural or religious group is of course as varied as any other. Different strands, different cultural assimilations, different customs, different interpretations of the same basic texts, different levels of observance/orthodoxy/non-orthodoxy etc etc.

Re banning: so what are you doing here but complaining you’ve been ‘threatened’ with a ban, huh? Here, have it your way and consider yourself effectively banned from this thread.

 
At 7:08 PM, Blogger Daniel Hoffmann-Gill said...

Merry Christmas Gert, keep fighting the good fight sir.

 
At 9:07 PM, Blogger Gert said...

And to you, Sir!

 

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