Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Ismail AX - Latest Conspiracy Theory: Islam responsible for VA Tech Massacre!

You couldn't make this up if you wanted too: another conspiracy nut job case. Mainly from Fox originates a story linking the words Ismail AX to the Korean gun nut responsible for the VA Tech murders:
Sources told the Tribune that the words "ISMAIL AX" were also found written in red ink on the inside of one of Cho's arms.

The cyber-sentinels of IslamicThreat turned it into this:
Just heard it on Fox News. Cho Seung-Hui left a suicide note and signed it as Ismael-AX (or Ismail-AX as the media published just now).

and quickly embroidered on it some more here:
Liviu Librescu, a Jewish Holocaust survivor, lost his life trying to save the life of students. How ironic! Ishmael strikes again! A man using the name of the father of the Muslims kills a descendant of Isaac."

Another story has it that Ismail-AX was his gaming nickname but didn't attribute any religious connotations to it. More conspiracy nuggets here... (Google blog results) Extra! Extra! Read all about it...

Let's blame Islam for this one too. The fundienutz are lapping it all up eagerly...


Despite the fact that evidence for the Cho-Islam connection seems to be entirely lacking and that all evidence points to the thesis of a deranged lone gunman, the "Ismail AX" croc, in good conspiracy theory tradition, has taken root in the less smart part of the blagghing networks. There aren't that many that don't look at the Islamic connection with deep scepticism, but those that buy into it are also out there and almost invariably of the fundamentalist Judeo-Christian variety.

It would be all too easy to dismiss these people as a small minority, not really worthy of time and attention but the fact of the matter is that this ratcheting up the rhetoric of "t'wos Muslim vermin wot did it" without evidence, substance or proof is frankly speaking nudging us one more small step forward toward the "clash of civilisations", even though, bloggosphere-wise at least, for the time being it appears more like a clash of the nincompoops.

Here's one blogger who's
bought the whole croc hook, line and sinker, convinced of course that the MSM are simply covering up the connection. As if the absence of the story in the MSM actually proves his position, which of course it doesn't in any way, shape or form.

Rather tellingly, Mad Zionist's stance has already attracted the attention of one French Muslim commenter, who's vowed to take it out on some of Mad Zionist's French brethren. To Mad Zionist this will of course be further proof of the utter perfidity of Islam and Muslims and the fact that (in his own words) "Islam is a terror organisation that needs to be eradicated". To the Muslim radical, it will simply confirm the stereotype of Muslim hating Westerners. No good can come of either position.

Whilst most of the world's conflict are essentially not religious in nature but are really about land, resources and power, religion continues time and time again to be hijacked by leaders and their acolytes to rally the troops around the common cause. And slogans from a dim and distant past, based on often meaningless phrases and derived from ancient scrolls that have lost much of their significance vis-à-vis the modern world continue to provide the rhetoric and battle-cries of wars, past, present and future...

It makes me be proud to be an agnostic/atheist no end.


At 11:00 PM, Blogger Steve Decatur said...

Let's talk about it. First of all, Fox News just said that the murderer left a note signed Ismail-Ax. There are many logical reasons to link him to Islam you just didn't bother to read the rest of the entries on The Islamic Threat. If you have better theories as to why he signed his letter as Ismail-Ax please come up with them.

At 12:52 AM, Blogger Eric Dondero said...

I agree entirely with Steve here. If you have a better theory for why this guy scrawled "Ismail Axe" on his arm, than let's hear them.

Wouldn't it have been more logical for him to scrawl a Korean phrase on there? Or maybe something in English?

How wierd that he'd put an Arabic name on his arm?

Let's hear your explanation for it.

At 11:07 AM, Blogger boeddi said...

... "ismail ax = ismailax = is mai lax = is my luck" ... written in red for a korean? that's bad luck? ...

At 2:47 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Lemmesee, I watched some gruesome five hours of Fox footage yesterday, almost hoping I'd catch a glimpse of the "Ismail AX" story: no such luck. Seems even Faux News has given up on it.

"[...] you just didn't bother to read the rest of the entries on The Islamic Threat."

No Steve, I didn't. You might toil under the illusion that your blog is a reputable news source but I don't.

At 3:11 PM, Blogger Gert said...

As regards "better theories", that request kind of shows the flaw in your thinking. Is it a question of coming up with the best "story"? No, it's a question of coming up with a narrative that best fits the facts.

Here's the prevailing "theory" that does fit the facts well:

- Cho was a troubled young man and had been advised to seek counselling
- There may have been an element of jealousy, sparking off the first killings
- Cho seemed to have a problem with "rich kids" and "debauchery"
- He manages to buy a 6 mm handgun over the counter without any problems whatsoever
- He flips and decides to punch holes in as many people as possible, before turning the gun on himself
- Statistically speaking, with such an incredible amount of firearms out and about, such freak incidents are almost inevitable. It's simply the price to pay for a flourishing gun culture

Satisfied now?

At 3:20 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Ooops, "9 mm" of course, not "6 mm", my bad.

At 5:02 PM, Blogger Steve Decatur said...

Gert, knowing that you are from Yorkshire adds a new dimension to your comments. Britain is turning into Britainistan exactly becaise of the refusal of people like yourself to challenge anything that has the smell of Islam in it. You people have submitted yourselves totally and completely to Allah. I just pray from the budhists, hindus and Christians who live in England. I pray that when Sharia law is declared and your queen starts wearing a hijab or even a burqa, the Hindus, budhists and christians of England will be either as far away from the British isles.

As far as your 'explanations' they fail to address the use of Ismail Ax, an Islamic name, that is confirmed by all media now. Refusal to discuss this clue is sad.

At 2:30 AM, Blogger sig94 said...

Like so much else in life, let's wait this one out. I refuse to submit myself to the torture of 24/7 conjecture.

At 11:24 AM, Blogger Baconeater said...

From what I understand, he was a Christian, and his parents were devout Christian. But so far that is just rumour going on the Atheist blogosphere.
I even heard a rumour his parents killed themselves in Korea after this happened.
We'll find out more.
I didn't hear anything in his psychotic rants to make it appear he was doing a job for Allah though. He did mention Jesus a few times, and Fox isn't really focusing on that for some reason:)

OT Gert, Check this out.

At 12:43 PM, Blogger Gert said...


Your "Britainistan" stance tells much more about you than it does about me. It's a croc, nothing more nothing less. Come over here and look for yourself. On second thought, don't, we have enough loons of all stripes and denominations here without you joining the melee.

The "Ismail AX" thingy is now dead. It should never have been brought out in the first place: was there a coroner's report that proves the use of that term? No, so we don't even know the whether the basic premise of your theory actually holds water. You, however, keep embroidering in the typical fashion of any old conspiracy nut. I see you've already reserved another blog to dedicate to Cho: really, you should get a life and a hobby and obsessions don't qualify as either.

If I'm wrong on all this, I'll place a blurb on this post. If you're wrong, will you do the same? I doubt it...


Agreed. Too much is made of far too little, simply because its too soon to get the complete picture. In some respects it's quite disrespectful to the victims and their families to go and wildly jump to all kinds of conclusions.


Agreed. I'll be over shortly.

At 4:22 PM, Blogger Mad Zionist said...

"I'm actually not paying attention to the media at all. I find myself more informed that way".

This statement was wrongly attributed to me. I've never said these words, a commenter on my blog did. Please note this and make the proper correction. The rest is your opinion on your blog and I will not address the subjective.

At 4:29 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Mad Zionist:

Fair point. It's been corrected.

And you don't address the subjective?? Everything is subjective and so are you.

At 4:40 PM, Blogger Mad Zionist said...

Gert, I can be very subjective and I don't deny your right to be either. I'm only saying that I won't expect you to change your subjective views, only to correct a factual error. Thank you for making the correction.


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