Talking to Israelis...
Being part of the lefty ultra-minority in
The Palestinians want to destroy us, and therefore, whatever we do to them is justified.
It doesn’t matter that A doesn’t necessarily leads to B (even in war not everything is justified), it doesn’t even matter we are talking about something else completely, say racism towards Arab Israeli citizens or the future of
I try to speak about
“How do you know the IDF did that?” the answer comes. “Don’t say you believe that self-hating Jew, Goldstone?”
- Well, there are pictures of the bombs exploding, there are people with phosphorus-like burns, and I know that every combat unit in the IDF carries standard phosphorus ammunition, because I’ve been there and I even used it in training.
- You don’t get it, do you? The Palestinians want to destroy us all. What we did in
And that’s basically it. You can’t ask about war crimes, you can’t discuss the phosphorus. Everything becomes irrelevant.
So I forget about the Goldstone report, just like the Israeli media did, and I try to write about Obama’s effort to re-ignite the peace process, or about the fact that from an Israeli perspective, there is no real alternative to the two-state solution. I ask, for example, why
- Because settlements are not the issue. They are not the obstacle for peace. We can evacuate them whenever we want.
- If it’s no big deal, what’s preventing us from stopping, even as a favor to Obama?
- The whole demand is a trick to divert us, and the rest of the world, from the real issue: that the Palestinians want to destroy us. Therefore, building settlements is justified.
- I fail to see the connection. The Hamas is indeed a problem, but surly, Abu-Mazen… I mean, look at his efforts to keep the
- If everything is quiet, what’s the rush to hand back land?
- Because if we don’t, we will have another Intifada.
- And in this case, we will give them nothing! We don’t deal with terrorists!
- So, when do we get the point where we do give them something?
- It’s simple: When they don’t want to destroy us anymore.
- And how do we know that?
- We can’t. Look at what happened in
And so it goes on and on. The Israelis found the perfect argument. It’s the reason and the outcome of everything. It’s the way to understand the past, behave in the present and foresee the future. It’s the full circle, the ying and the yang, and there is no way to break it, since Israelis seem to know what’s in the Palestinians’ hearts. And this is something you can’t debate.
The only possible solution is to surrender. “OK,” I say. “I’ll go along with your logic. We can’t leave the
- No way! This is a democracy!
- Yeh, I know… and the one-state solution is out of the question…
- Out of the question! We will have an Arab majority! This will be the end of everything!
- So what do you basically suggest we do?
(Silence, followed by a long speech)
- Look. What are you getting at? Are you trying to say we don’t want peace? Don’t you remember the
- Well, in Arabic…
- …The point is that we want peace. Do you think we enjoy all these wars? Remember what Golda Meir said? “We will forgive the Arabs for what they did to us, but we will never forgive them for what they made us do to them.” Beautiful, isn’t it? Captures the whole thing… I mean, look at the people we are dealing with. This is no
- I’m trying to think about the future. This leads us nowhere, the Palestinians have their own list of pogroms, lets take the Nakba for instance…
- The Nakba? What’s that has to do with it? Why are they always so obsessed with the Nakba, those Palestinians? They should look forward, settle the refugees where they are, build their nation… and you, why do you criticize
- Like what?
- For example, about the incitement in the Palestinian society. They really don’t like us, you know.
- They want to destroy us.
- I see you are learning something after all.