Mark Steel: fun with Afghanistan
H/T Jews sans Frontieres.
The exercise of power is determined by thousands of interactions between the world of the powerful and that of the powerless, all the more so because these worlds are never divided by a sharp line: everyone has a small part of himself in both - Vaclav Havel
Looking into the Oliver Stone flap I came across few Britbloggers that ruminated about it but Normblog and Harry's Place didn't disappoint. I won't go into 'Alan A's' (HP) predictably over the top reaction but reading through the comment section I found this little gem from regular contributor and racist Zionist 'Fabian from Israel', comment of 27 July 2010, 5:23 pm [emph. is mine]:
Most of you were born in the
First World. I come from a relatively privileged area of the Third World, . Argentina
The slums I saw every time I left
Buenos Airescity make Gazalook like . Are concrete houses a refugee camp? In your dreams! London ’s slums are built of tin shacks stacked one over the other. Argentina
Seriously, Gazans live waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the average Argentinian. And they don’t even have to WORK! The day that UNRWA stops feeding them, the conflict will be over. Gazans don’t know what real life is. But not in the sense anti-imperialists think.
FFS, just visit any real third world country in
Latin Americaand if you are honest you won’t give a damn about the Palestinians anymore!
After the ubiquitous 'really dude, if it ain't as bad as the
And 'when UNRWA stops, the conflict will be over'. Why's that, Fabian? Because then they will actually be even worse off? Wasn't that Israel's clearly failed plan all along?
At the Brown Sauce all this passes for reasonable commentary about possibly racist comments made by a public figure. It'll be fun to watch and see if any Zionist commenter at HP will point out Fabian's own racist position.
Regarding Oliver Stone, his statements were crude and very generalist and thus borderline racist. But the reaction from Zionists remains predictably gross and OTT.
And now I'm off to the slums of
I follow Riz Khan's (the smooth operator!) interactive Al Jazeera show almost religiously but last night felt a special connection because this episode's topic was the Israeli/Palestinian organisation Combatants for Peace (CfP), which is actively supported by Alex Stein, owner of the now dormant False Dichotomies blog, occasional contributor to Ha'aretz, author of possibly the only Harry's Place post on I/P worth reading ('Mr Netanyahu goes to Washington') and Internet Zio pen pal.
On the show, fairly carefully chosen CfP members Bassam Aramin and Elik Elhanan, both ex-combatants in the Israeli Palestinian conflict, both having suffered also very close personal losses as a result of the quagmire.
As regards CfP purpose and mission in life here's their vision.
We are a group of Palestinians and Israelis who have suffered greatly and have taken an active part in the cycle of violence in our area; the Israelis as soldiers in the IDF and the Palestinians as combatants fighting to free their country, Palestine, from the Israeli occupation. In a joint Israeli-Palestinian initiative, Combatants for Peace was founded based on the following principles:
- We are convinced that the conflict cannot be resolved through military means exercised by either side.
- We believe that only through joint action can we break the cycle of violence and end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.
- We call for the foundation of a Palestinian state, the capital of which will be
East Jerusalemand based on the borders of the 4th of June, 1967. The Palestinian state will reside side by side with , and a relationship based on peace and security will exist between the two states. Israel
- We choose to participate in a non-violent struggle in order to achieve our goals. We call for people from both sides to join us in achieving peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
- We call for leaders from both sides to take a brave step forward and initiate a serious negotiation in order to end the conflict, to desist from taking one sided steps and to stop building the settlements in the west bank and in east Jerusalem, whose hidden goal is to perpetuate the conflict and block any chance for real peace.
I could criticise: I could tell Alex, Bassam and Elik for instance that at a growth rate of about a hundred members a year, it's a slow boat to
As regards the show, it was well worth watching, with some interesting interaction from viewers too. Watch it here:
By the Rivers of Brown Sauce
In a post at Harry's Place, Mark Gardner goes wild in the country with a post titled “By the Rivers of
It's too funny to completely rip apart, so read it yourself. These sheople find antisemitism in empty cookie jars.
On this bit:
Furthermore, the age old association of Jews with
... comments 'johng':
Who knew that you could expose all critics of Zionism as making hysterical invitations to antisemitism by simply referring to a Boney M song?
Perhaps if Sands had only listened everything would be ok (one recalls critiques of his insufficient exhaustion of sources with amusement). No wonder they feared this song at a Palestinian solidarity gig.
Quite incredulous at first, I saw a newsticker on Jeera claiming 'Palestinian man convicted of rape for pretending to be Jewish' or words to that effect. This sounded positively bizarre: an Arab conspiracy theory? Tragicomically speaking, alas not. JsF ran the story via Ha'aretz:
An Arab resident of Jerusalem who had consensual sex with a woman who believed him to be Jewish, was convicted yesterday of rape by deception and sentenced to 18 months in prison by the Jerusalem District Court.
Sabbar Kashur, 30, was convicted as part of a plea bargain. According to the indictment, Kashur met the complainant in September 2008 in downtown Jerusalem, presenting himself as a Jewish bachelor looking for a serious romantic relationship.
The couple then went to a nearby building and had sex, after which Kashur left the building without waiting for the woman to get dressed.
When the woman found Kashur was not a Jew but an Arab, she filed a complaint that resulted in charges of rape and indecent assault.
In the verdict, deputy president of the Jerusalem district court Tzvi Segal, along with fellow judges Moshe Drori and Yoram Noam, wrote that although this wasn't "a classical rape by force," and the sex was consensual, the consent itself was obtained through deception and under false pretenses.
"If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," the judges wrote.
Segal further wrote that this was not a case to be resolved by having the convicted defendant undertake community service, as was suggested by the defense team in the plea bargain.
It's getting more like Jim Crow every day in the Zionist Thingy... Imagine a French woman pretending to be British, getting convicted for a sexual crime for having had consensual sex with a British man (and leaving him with his pants on his feet...)
I'm disappointed in Ha'aretz for not condemning this parody in the harshest tones.
Well, almost Friday then...
PALESTINIANS STRIVE TO RESIST APPROPRIATELY
According to messages intercepted by an Israeli security service that may or may not exist, Palestinian leadership is struggling to identify a form of protest acceptable to
Consequently, officials from the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority, Hamas, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Islamic Jihad have been communicating frantically, groping for a resistance strategy that won’t offend Jewish sensitivities. Despite their differences and suspicions (including the question of which side the PA is actually on), their secretly recorded communications reveal a shared predicament. They also confirm that Arabs incessantly conspire (except when they incessantly quarrel and prove themselves incapable of self-government).
MESHAL: Everyone hooked up?..Okay, gentlemen, we have a big problem, so I’m just gonna say what needs to be said. We’re screwing up the one thing we always agreed on –
SHALLAH: Cool. Listen, I couldn’t agree more about re-calibrating strategy, Khaled. I really thought the settlement boycott would be OK, since its stuff made on our land and all that, but it’s just way too aggressive. We should’ve run it by the Yesha Council.
FAYYAD: And that Aid Flotilla – what a bright idea. Not! Look, we were warned. When Lieberman calls something a violent provocation, it’s a violent provocation. Those crazy boats and what-have-you. Why? Because of a siege? It just makes
SA’ADAT: Say, who’s gonna talk to these hotheads in Ni’lin and Bi’lin? It’s not okay to provoke tear gas and bullets and scrawl that potty-mouth stuff on the Wall. I don’t want Jewish kids seeing that trash on TV.
FAYYAD: You’re blaming the Authority, I assume.
SA’ADAT: Your turf, man.
FAYYAD: My turf? Listen, I have –
MESHAL: C’mon, c’mon. Guys, there’s plenty of blame for everyone. Let’s keep it positive.
SHALLAH: Hey, a rabbi, a sheikh and a midget walk into a brothel. The sheikh says –
SA’ADAT: This the one where the rabbi says “oy vey, it’s bigger than a palm tree”?
SHALLAH: You heard it already?
MESHAL: Who hasn’t? That joke’s older than the Jewish presence in
SA’ADAT: No, no, no, no, no! Khaled, are you trying to make things worse? Every lover wants you to just understand them and not ask a lot of questions. Besides, you’re just trying to shift responsibility to the Jews. As Abdullah said, it’s our duty to figure this out.
MESHAL: What about a Palestinian Gandhi?
SHALLAH: That’s just another version of asymmetrical warfare. With
FAYYAD: How about we use protest letters? Firm but polite. Good quality paper.
MESHAL: Better yet, does anybody know if the Israelis have a standard complaint form? We fill it out, submit quietly through proper channels, we can’t go wrong. It’s their own form.
SHALLAH: That’s good. Just let’s not flood them with complaints. We’ll look like a nuisance and it’s not very nice.
MESHAL: Right, exactly. Everything in moderation. Not too much and not too little.
FAYYAD: Well, too little’s okay.
SHALLAH: Of course. By the way, a friend sent me an old Jackie Mason album. Vinyl - mint condition! Guy makes me laugh so hard I plotz!
SA’ADAT: Jackie takes something, like, half-formed in my mind and says it perfectly. Like he’s in my head!
FAYYAD: You wish, Ahmad!
MESHAL: Hey, I hate to be a nudje, but we’re burning minutes. Listen, how about something like this Flotilla Commission the Israelis put together? A focus group of really old Jews that detest us. If something doesn’t offend those guys, it’s good to go.
SA’ADAT: Again you make the Jews responsible! Not only do you want painful concessions, you want them to tell you how to ask for them. Nutty.
MESHAL: Okay, Mr. Diplomat, make a proposal - for once. One constructive idea.
SA’ADAT: Well, maybe if you listened a little more carefully, you’d know I’ve been suggesting a petition drive from day one.
MESHAL: I like petition drives. I always said they’re very effective with the Israelis. But what do we demand?
MESHAL: Okay, not demand. Request.
SHALLAH: Something like, we, the undersigned, respectfully request…what?
SA’ADAT: Negotiations?... Discussions about negotiations?
FAYYAD: Preliminary discussions about preliminary negotiations?
SHALLAH: Jordanian citizenship and limited residency rights in restricted
SA’ADAT: No, no – that’s to be negotiated.
SHALLAH: This’s really hard. Ya know, I just don’t think it’s so wrong to ask the Israelis for a little guidance. They know what they’ll tolerate.
MESHAL: Do they? 2 Jews, 3 opinions.
SA’ADAT: Why can’t we be delightfully quirky like that?
MESHAL: Lemme tell you something Abu Tir said the other day. "Hamas wins parliamentary elections and they arrest 64 of us. So protest voting’s obviously not allowed. After 4 years in prison, they revoke my
FAYYAD: Khaled, c’mon, man…
MESHAL: This never occurs to you? That everything we’re talking about, the expulsions, the land grabs, the contempt, it’s all on purpose to make us surrender?
SHALLAH: Wow. My brother, that’s really paranoid.
SA’ADAT: Worse, it’s anti-semitic incitement. Khaled, I’m very disappointed.
SHALLAH: Those Syrians slipped something in your falafel.
FAYYAD: Look, if we present the right request in the right way at the right time,
MESHAL: Sorry. Guess I’m a little frustrated…
SHALLAH: Here’s a good one. Arab walks into a bar on
FAYYAD: Now that’s funny! I gotta tell that one to Tony Blair!
Admittedly there's a tad more to it than this but Larry Derfner in the J'Post does sum it up rather well:
Given the way
Adie Nistelrooy's (ISM) words directed at the shooters, "... that not fair, that's not right, is it?", must go down as the understatement of the conflict...
Wow! The largest news network in the US had a brief item about the difficulties Palestinians face when buying real estate in Jerusalem. The anchorman uses the expression "pretty intense discrimination". Hell will now surely freeze over...
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Excellent stuff here by Phil Weiss on Ussama Makdisi:
We are in the midst of an essential historical conversation. An essential discovery of
The perverse irony of where we are today is that a century ago Arabs had a largely positive view of the
. United States
Most of us are unaware that throughout the 19th century and well into the 20th, many Christian and Muslim Arabs were inspired by
. American missionaries were the primary catalysts for this early perception.... America
Arabs appreciated this adaptation, just as they appreciated the lack of
U.S. imperialism in the region, the possibilities afforded by emigration to the United States, and Wilsonian principles of self-determination.
The point of knowing this history is not to indulge in romanticism or in nostalgia for a bygone era. Rather, it is to lay the basis for a genuine, historically informed dialogue between Americans and Arabs. It is also to discover the choices made by both Americans and Arabs that transformed this positive history into the fraught relationship that today ensnares both sides. Any honest recounting of this history will inevitably bring up the difficult subject of the creation of
in 1948 at the expense of the Palestinian Arabs. Israel
That is when U.S.-Arab relations began to unravel. Pressured by domestic Zionist groups intent on realizing their dream of a Jewish state, and by a post-war sympathy for the plight of European Jews, the
U.S.broke with the Arab world by supporting the creation of . In so doing, it lost the capital built up by over a century of educational and philanthropic missionary work. Despite repeated warnings at the time from Christian and Muslim Arabs, as well as the pleadings of many Americans who lived in the Arab world, the Israel U.S.transformed, virtually overnight, an Arab faith in the as a paragon of anti-imperialism into disillusionment and anger. United States
This is because
's creation as a Jewish state has never been simply about ending European anti-Semitism: It has also been about displacing the indigenous Palestinian Arabs. At a moment when most of the rest of the world, including parts of the Arab world itself, were on the cusp of independence, Arab Palestinians were made stateless. The positive trajectory of U.S.-Arab relations suddenly became bitterly negative. Israel
Understanding, rather than shying away from, this pivotal moment and its far-reaching consequences is not the same thing as wishing to undo what has been done, or to dwell self-indulgently on the past. What it does mean is recognizing how Arabs, Israelis and
have been, and remain, bound together in a fateful triangle. As President Obama said a year ago, the denial of the Holocaust or a history of anti-Semitism must end. But so too must a prevailing denial of just how important the traumatic loss of America has been to Arabs and how great an injustice it represented to them. A history of Western anti-Semitism bled into a history of Arab dispossession. Palestine
Although nothing to get worked up about, the elaborate attempt at insulting reprinted below was penned clearly with some effort put in by 'Nick K' at Richard Millett's blog. It should stand at as a testimony to the willingness to open debate being reflexively replaced by Zionists with accusations of the most fantastical and comical variety. I thought over at Richard's when one commenter openly, very convincingly and repeatedly threatened me with physical violence I'd kind of heard it all (why does a respectable blogger like Richard Millett allow this kind of 'commenting'?) But I was wrong: they broke the mould when they made 'Nick K'. Take it away, Nick:
[snip]I don’t think Gert was invited, which brings me to the thrust of this entry.
Most evil doers believe they act in good faith and they would be quick to deny any pejorative intent. Gert is of this ilk.
Yet his hating credentials are impeccable and beyond reproach. A self-proclaimed anti-Zionist, (Zionism being defined as Jewish self-determination in its ancestral homeland), he extends that same right of self-determination to all except the Jew. He has qualified his denial by maintaining that he would also deny it to others, but he appears to be a bit short on examples of the non-deserving self-determiners. When pushed he will no doubt do the mandatory Google search and sideline the Crimean Tartars or Kyrgystan Tajiks, or perhaps the Egyptian Coptics, or even the Dr. Who Daleks, as a credible defense to his prominent Jewish exclusion. [Edit: these aren't the examples I had in mind at all]. But you can’t really blame him. A nuclear capability in the hands of a sovereign Dalek state might make good TV but would be a recipe for global instability.
He wields the term anti-Zionist with a deep inbred loathing that would not be out of sorts on the editorial pages of Der Sturmer. He spews his vitriol with the nonchalance of an unemployed Millwall skinhead – lehavdil. When cornered he concedes not wanting
Israelwiped off the planet (thank you) [Edit: there was no 'cornering': I've never been opposed to the existence of Israel], then elucidates with some lofty and winging hullaballoo about ’s justification lying solely in its de facto existence [Edit: that is true of most, if not all states]. Israel
But to go as far as calling him Gestapo Gert, as one venerable contributor [Edit: this is the same 'venerable' contributor mentioned in the intro] has done, would be a slight on a small number of card-carrying Gestapo members. Most notably in 1940 Gestapo chief, Rudolf Diels refused to arrest Jews, lost his job and risked his own imprisonment. Gert does not seem to have that problem, as he does not have a job [Edit: baseless conjecture, not to mention irrelevant and private].
He has attributed the recent raid on a UN summer camp in
Gazaby armed Palestinians, to ’s marginalization of the Hamas [Edit: this is a complete lie: I disagree totally with Hamas' behaviour re. the summer camp]. The Nazi who could have come up with that gem has not yet been born. Sadly Gert has. Israel
Gert, you are a bad man, a very bad man.
Update: It appears that my status of 'worse than Gestapo' has now been upgraded to 'ontological genocidaire'. Nick K again:
While selective or even near blanket criticism of a country’s policies can be legitimate and rooted in honor, Gert’s crass questioning of
Let it never be said that blanket accusations of antisemitism (and more) aren't regularly used to try and shut up critics of Israel and to railroad/shut down any meaningful debate on Israel/Palestine...
From the newly discovered, whacky and seriously funny Circus
The righteous Hebraic air of Eretz
SHMUEL R. (software designer): “All I’m saying is when you discuss
ELIE W. (professional survivor and honoree): “I’m only against being singled out. I don’t oppose saying our suffering must be elevated above all others, or that we’re unique, a Light Unto Nations, God’s Chosen People, never wrong and above international law. But, please, don’t single us out.”
ADINA L. (early childhood educator): “Once in a while, single us out for something good we’ve developed – like armored bulldozers or family punishment or certain interrogation methods.”
YISRAEL Y. (redeemer of sacred hilltops): “How about me and my posse single you out, you fucking traitor?”
TATIANA M. (beautician and drug mule): “Maybe they could single out
STEVEN P. (Haifa University professor) “Why don’t they pick on all the other countries with undefined borders, ethnic-based public policy, a vast apparatus of usurpation and occupation, a siege on another people, a continuous history of attacking neighboring states and a disregard for international law? Why don’t they? Nothing to say, judenrat?”
AVIGAIL B. (fertile womb of the Jewish People) “Us they single out? The only ethno-religious democracy in the
MENACHEM D. (yeshiva student): “Can you believe what they’re getting for yogurt here? At these prices, who can afford to feed me?”
YORAM N. (IDF Lieutenant and DJ): “Which singling out do you mean, bro? Where Obama has to give us more military aid than anybody else?”
DOV L. (rabbi & mohel) “Blood libel!”
SHIMON P. (President of Israel): “It’s time to begin proximity negotiations to quantify the number and characteristics of other nations that must be discussed when criticizing
AVIGDOR L. (Israeli Foreign Minister): “As a boy, I was often singled out for hitting other children with a lead pipe, so I know how that feels. It’s a real slap in the face to your self-esteem.”
GOLDA A. (painless dentist): “I have only one question about this repulsive singling out – is it good for the Jews?”